he Friday Project and Dino, Sr.:”You Had Us Beat “

You Had Us Beat
c. ’12 The Friday Project and Dino, Sr.

There you stand lookin’ at the things you
used to have
There you stand at the end of your old street
You had it all, right there in your hand
You had it all so sweet
You had us beat

There you sit with a bad look on yer face
There you sit lookin’ like you lost the race
You had it all, right there in your hand
You had it all so sweet
You had us beat

There you lay at the bottom of the heap
There you lay, the price to pay too steep
You had it all, right there in your hand
You had it all so sweet
You had us beat

Drums: krister-yamas-Ri16 (AT4040 OH’s;
AKGD310 snare)
Bass:
HdlessHohner -UA710-dbx160XT
Rt Gtr: Dino, Sr., Strat, Pod
LeftGtr:
L= FG&L F100-ShinyBoxmod-ISA1
Ctr = RE320-Summit
LdVoc: ADK A51V-Meek VC1Q
BV’s: MD421n-VC1Q
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The Friday Project w/ Dinos,Sr.: KristerPhoneCallBlues

live w/ dubbed keys & tambo

KristerPhoneCallBlues
c. 2012 The Friday Project

Drums: Krister-Yamas-R16 (mono OH

AT4040-Snare-AKG D310)
Basss: Headless Hohner-R16
Gtr: DinoSr-Start-Pod
LdVoc: Beta58-R16
KeysL:
S03_48-Quadra-Electra-2×12-MXLrbn-UA710
KeysRt:
S03_48-Quadra-Electra-2×12-MD421n-UA710

The Friday Project w/ Dino Sr.: “eggs”

eggs
c. ’12 The Friday Project

Well, my daddy had him a diner,
I ate at every day,
Well, my daddy had him a diner,
And sometimes I’d stay,
I’d cook the eggs 2x
Ch Solo

Well, my daddy was a truck driver,
Drive all night and drive all day,
He drove him a big Freightliner,
And sometimes I’d hafta say,
I’d load the trailer 2x
Well my daddy was a professor
Taught the children how to think and say
Yeah, my daddy was a professor
Taught the children the best ways
I learned from him 2x

CH:
Follow in his footsteps
What I’m gonna do
Follow in his footsteps
Nothin’ else to do
Rap bridge:
What the daddy do
is what you
pro’ly will do 3x

Well, my daddy was a gunfighter
Slapped and pulled it everyday
Yeah, my daddy was a gunfighter
Me, I wanna follow his ways
I’ll shoot the bad guys 2x
Ch solo
Follow in his footsteps
What I’m gonna do
Follow in his footsteps
Nothin’ else to do
Follow in his footsteps
What I’m gonna do
Follow in his footsteps
I’m gonna shoot you

Drums: krister-Yama’s-R16 (OH’s AT4040
spaced; snare-AKG D310)
Gtr: Dino,Sr.-Strat-Pod
Bass: HohnerHdls-R16
LdVoc: SM7b-UA710-1176.wav
2nd Voc: MD421n-UA710-1176
BV-L: MD421II-UA710-1176
BV-Rt: RE320-UA710-1176
Organ:
03_47-QuadraSoundBlender-Elektar-2×12″
Piano:
S03_07-QuadraSoundBlender-Elektar-2×12

re “My Synesthesia”

In answer to some questions:

The drums are actually put together from some loops I made, recorded a cuppla months ago.  A particular problem was the ringing of the snare, what I gated best I could.  The overheads were small diaphragm condensers (Studio Project C5’s) and the snare a Beta 58, but I think the problem was krister’s new snare drum, what wasn’t properly tuned.  I actually spent about 2 hours building that drum track, then hadda re-do it in the 3rd hour to further address that ringing, and it still sounds “garagey”.

That middle-end vocal effect was done by taking three tracks of “aaaH’ and pitch-bending ’em down at the end.  I then cloned those three tracks, delayed ’em a quarter second and panned ’em opposite and brought ’em up under with a cathedral reverb on just the clones (the original 3 have their original effects; slap-back in the middle, plates on the sides). The very end vocal was just run thru a cuppla distortion patches.

Bass: BadRicky-The Brick-dbx160XT = Groove Tubes “The Brick” pre into a dbx compressor

LdVoc: MD421II-1589B-1176 = Sennheiser MD421N mic (vintage) into an Altec pre (vintage) and a clone of a vintage Universal Audio compressor.

L BV: AKG D310-1589B-1176 = left backing vocal is a vintage AKG mic in the above chain

Rt BV: EVnd257B-1589B-1176 = right BV is an Electrovoice mic (like the one I did a thread on cleaning, altho’ this one is an “B” version, not “A”)

RthmGtrs: SG-Vox-MXL144Rbn-ISA1 = that black Gibson you like into a Pathdfinder into a MXL ribbon mic (modded) into a Focusrite pre

Ld Gtrs: F100-ProJr-RE3320-UA710-A = a G&L into a small Fender into a Electrovoice RE320 (the latest version of the RE20) into a Universal Audio pre (the “-A” is a typo)

vitualan & son & vlayman: “Ripped to the Tits”

Ripped to the Tits
c. ’12 virtualan & son & vlayman

Well I seen that you were makin’ the scene
Until you seen that I seen
And I finally seen, that you was everything
to me
everything
to me

I knew the truth but I never used to could say it
I knew the truth and that’s why I stayed
Ripped to the tit’s

Well you seen me checkin’ out the scene
And all them that seen me, was wonderin’ where I been
And I finally seen, that you was everything
And I finally seen that you was everything
to me

I knew the truth but I never used to could say it
I knew the truth and that’s why I stayed
Ripped to the tit’s
Ripped to the tit’s
Ripped to the tit’s
Ripped to the tit’s

Aaaah.

virtualan: Drums, bass, fecund rhytnm gtr
son: main rhythmgtr
vlayman: ld gtr, vox
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The Friday Project: “My Synesthesia”

My Synesthesia
c. 12 The Friday Project

I’m on the Tannoys
and I’m guaranteed to annoy
alla my kids
Cuz I’m playin’ stuff over and over and over
like I’m on acid

CH: See the pretty colors there,
See the pretty colors everywhere,
My synesthesia ain’t real
It’s more about the way ya feel
Do ya hear the pretty colors 3x
Now?

The kick drum is purple
Pushes up against my head
It and the bass take up the space
Of all the blues and reds
Guitars is green, yellow and in between
leaves the vocals blue
‘Specially when I’m singin’ ’bout you
CH

I’m on the Tannoys
Annoyin’ both the girls and boys
Cuz I’m playin’ stuff over and over and over
like I’m on acid

Drums: Krister-yamas-R16 (SP C5’s at 90,
Beta58 on snare)
Bass: BadRicky-The Brick-dbx160XT
LdVoc: MD421II-1589B-1176
L BV: AKG D310-1589B-1176
Rt BV: EVnd257B-1589B-1176
RthmGtrs: SG-Vox-MXL144Rbn-ISA1
Ld Gtrs: F100-ProJr-RE3320-UA710-A

The Friday Project: “One of the Old Boys”

One of the Old Boys
c. ’12 The Friday Project

Used to be how we would try and think how we could be three, but now we see, that ain’t the way it’s gonna be, not you and me and her makes three, not even you and me
Now I’m just one of the old boys, 2x

Now and then, I think I see how it coulda been how it shoulda, way back when, how it coulda been, if we hadda yacht or a silver pot to piss in, way back then and then again
Now I’m just one of the old boys 2x

So now yer gone and I’m barely holdin’ on, and she’s gone too, mebbe she left with you and you can find another man but then again, do you wanna see, someone else like me
Now I’m just one of the old boys 4x

Solo

LdVoc: ADK51AV-UA710-VL
BV-L: MD421II-UA710-VLA
BV-Rt: AKG D310-UA710-VLA
BV-mid: EV RE320-UA710-VLA
RthmGt LP-PaulJr-SM7B-ISA1
LdGtr: F100-Marshall-MXL144mod-ISA1
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Mebbe helpful shite I said

It helps me to keep notes of stuff, sometimes even stuff I thought of, if only how to describe stuff, or name stuff or …  (today’s wordpress quote hits it: “Writing, to me, is simply thinking through my fingers. Isaac Asimov”):

FWIW, when stacking guitars, I find that using a different mic for each track on a side helps a lot – either Mr. Patterson or mebbe Mr. Carges, or both, said never use the same mic on vocal tracks – I love that, and for guitars, also. Taking the idear further, a different guitar or just pick-up, changing the amps out, pre-amps, etc. for each guitar track per side helps.

Other things you can do is use a chorus on one guitar, do one clean, one dirty, etc. Or compression, or delays … Or even mic distance and orientation (on-axis, off axis, on the floor) …

And if you use the same stacked tracks on each side (ex., Tele/Fender/dynamic/SS pre; Paul/Marshall/LDC/tube pre; Strat/Vox/ribbon/hybrid pre) you can build symmetrically. But really, the difference between a SM57 and a old AKG or something can be enough, even with the same guitar and amp.

Then, when put together, they seem to be individually more distinct in the guitar sub-mix, which I then might EQ.

Me, I’m less about EQ (other than pass-filters) then source sounds – definitely a weakness, but I just don’t like EQ as more than a fixit.

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Re mid/side micing:

Stereo incorporates the ambience; you give up the ambience when reducing to mono.

The Friday Project w/ Grankspoine: “Break or Bite”

Break or Bite
c. ’12 The Friday Project

I been seeing things that make me feel like I
been dreaming
I been seeing things that make me feel like I
oughta be screaming
Dreamin’ of you, 3x screamin’ of you

CH: O-o-o-h, I’m in pieces [awe] when
you’re outta my sight
O-o-o-h, I can’t get no peace, no~, you gotta
break or bite

I been hearin’ things that make me feel like I
been dreaming
& I been hearin’ things that make me feel
like I oughta be screaming
Dreamin’ of you, 3x screamin’ at you

CH: O-o-o-h, I’m in pieces [awe] when
you’re outta my sight
O-o-o-h, I can’t get no peace, no~, you gotta
break or bite

You been feeling things like you wish you
been dreaming
You been feeling things that have got you
screamin’

CH: O-o-o-h, you’re in pieces [awe] when
I’m outta your sight
O-o-o-h, you can’t get no peace, no~, I gotta
break or bite

Drums: Krister-yama’s-R16 90degreeOH
Bass: HohnerHdless-R16
Vox: AKG D200E-VC1Q
BV’s, Whispers, Gtr, Piano, Synth, Brass, Sax: Grankspoine
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Re “Paint …”

In answer to a question at lostoverture.com:

The guitar panning was done by duping the guitar mono track to a stereo track and moving it back .012 milliseconds, then using a pan plug that speeds up, and applying it a section at a time, and then the stereo track is run through a spring reverb patch.  The original guitar track was pass-filtered and slightly limited and then the stereo track brought up from underneath.  I was tryna make it bigger, as it is just a single guitar, but not over-whelming, and keep it subtle, but interesting.

Yep, me on all vox.

The drums were a very quick mix-down of Krister warming up.  The snares are off on the snare, and I experimented with a Audix F10 tom mic on snare top – it’s pretty dark.  I also threw a MXL144 room track (15′ out) that I high-passed at 250Hz and smashed with Blockfish and delayed it .012ms.  The first third of the track is the same as the last third, and I edited the hi-hat count-ins to match the tempos better – but again, the whole mixdown (kick, snare, OH’s, room, floor tom) was done in about 15 minutes, including edits.  Oh, no damping, and the room is a basement with 7′ ceilings – very live, very bad.